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		<title>en&gt;Tamzin: /* See also */ Wikipedia:Hate is disruptive</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;See also: &lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_is_disruptive&quot; class=&quot;extiw&quot; title=&quot;wikipedia:Hate is disruptive&quot;&gt;Wikipedia:Hate is disruptive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{short description|Editing that occurs over a period of time and disrupts progress towards building an encyclopedia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{distinguish|Wikipedia:Vandalism|Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Redirect-distinguish|WP:DE|Help:Dummy edit|Wikipedia:Dead-end pages}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Redirect|WP:DIS|the policy on disambiguation pages|Wikipedia:Disambiguation}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{subcat guideline|behavioral guideline|Disruption|WP:DE|WP:DIS|WP:DISRUPT|WP:DISRUPTIVE}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{nutshell|Editors who persistently disrupt Wikipedia, knowingly or unknowingly, may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] or [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|banned]] indefinitely.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Disruptive editing''' is a pattern of editing that may extend over a long time on many articles and disrupts progress toward improving an article or building the encyclopedia. Disruptive editing [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|is not always vandalism]], though vandalism is always disruptive. Each case should be treated independently, taking into consideration whether the actions violate [[WP:List of policies|Wikipedia policies]] and [[WP:List of guidelines|guidelines]]. If an editor treats situations that are not clearly vandalism as such, that editor may harm the encyclopedia by alienating or driving away potential editors.&lt;br /&gt;
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Disruptive editing is not always intentional. Editors may be accidentally disruptive because they don't understand how to correctly edit, or because they [[Wikipedia:Competence is required|lack the social skills or competence necessary to work collaboratively]]. The fact that the disruption occurs in [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good faith]] does not change the fact that it is harmful to Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Summary==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia owes much of its success to its openness. That very openness, however, sometimes attracts people who seek to exploit the site as a platform for [[WP:POV|pushing a single point of view]], [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]], [[Wikipedia:Advocacy|advocacy]], or [[WP:Conflict of interest|self-promotion]]. While notable minority opinions are welcomed when [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]] through [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]], and constructive editors occasionally make mistakes, sometimes a Wikipedia editor creates long-term problems by ''persistently'' editing a page or set of pages with information which is not [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]] through [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] or insisting on giving [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight|undue weight]] to a minority view.&lt;br /&gt;
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Collectively, disruptive editors harm Wikipedia by degrading its reliability as a reference source and by exhausting the patience of productive editors, who may quit the project in frustration when a disruptive editor continues with impunity.&lt;br /&gt;
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An edit which, in isolation, is not disruptive may still be part of a ''pattern'' of editing that is. A group of disruptive edits may be close together in time, or spread out; they may all occur on a single page, or on many pages; they may be all very similar, or superficially quite different.&lt;br /&gt;
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Disruptive editors may seek to disguise their behavior as productive editing, yet distinctive traits separate them from productive editors. When discussion fails to resolve the problem and when an impartial consensus of editors from outside a disputed page agree (through [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment|requests for comment]] or similar means), further disruption is grounds for blocking, and may lead to more serious disciplinary action through the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] process. In extreme cases, this could include a site ban, either through the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]] or by a consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], if observed by disruptive editors, is not to be construed as a defense against action taken to enforce this policy against disruptive editors. As stated in that policy, &amp;quot;The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times.&amp;quot; Likewise, editors should note that the [[WP:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] should not be broken, even by editors attempting to revert disruptive edits. While [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] is always disruptive, disruptive editing is [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#What is not vandalism|not necessarily vandalism]]; it is better for productive editors to follow the [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing#Dealing with disruptive editors|process suggested below]] than to break the three-revert rule.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Examples of disruptive editing==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Shortcut|WP:DISRUPTSIGNS}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Wikipedia:Editing policy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This guideline concerns gross, obvious and repeated violations of fundamental policies, not subtle questions about which reasonable people may disagree.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''A disruptive editor''' is an editor who exhibits tendencies such as the following:&lt;br /&gt;
# '''Is [[Wikipedia:Tendentious editing|tendentious]]''': continues editing an article or group of articles in pursuit of a certain point for an extended time despite opposition from other editors. Tendentious editors not only add material; some engage in disruptive deletions as well, e.g. repeatedly removing reliable sources posted by other editors.&lt;br /&gt;
# '''Cannot satisfy [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]]'''; fails to cite sources, cites unencyclopedic sources, misrepresents reliable sources, or manufactures original research.&lt;br /&gt;
# '''Engages in &amp;quot;disruptive cite-tagging&amp;quot;'''; adds unjustified {{tl|citation needed}} tags to an article when the content tagged is already sourced, uses such tags to suggest that properly sourced article content is questionable.&lt;br /&gt;
# '''Does not engage in [[WP:Consensus|consensus building]]:'''&lt;br /&gt;
#:a. repeatedly disregards other editors' questions or requests for explanations concerning edits or objections to edits;&lt;br /&gt;
#:b. repeatedly disregards other editors' explanations for their edits.&lt;br /&gt;
# '''Rejects or ignores community input''': resists moderation and/or requests for comment, continuing to edit in pursuit of a certain point despite an opposing consensus from impartial editors.&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, such editors might:{{anchor|Campaign to alienate productive editors|Campaign to drive away productive contributors}} {{Shortcut|WP:DAPE|WP:CTDAPE}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ol start=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;'''Campaign to drive away productive contributors''': act counter to policies and guidelines such as [[Wikipedia:Civility]], [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks]], or [[Wikipedia:Ownership of articles]]—or [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]]/[[WP:Meatpuppet|meatpuppetry]] that might not exhaust the general community's patience but still operates toward an end of exhausting the patience of productive, rule-abiding editors on certain articles.&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ol&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Point-illustrating===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{main|Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When one becomes frustrated with the way a [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|policy or guideline]] is being applied, it may be tempting to try to discredit the rule or interpretation thereof by, in one's view, applying it consistently. Sometimes, this is done simply to prove a point in a local dispute. In other cases, one might try to enforce a rule in a generally [[Wikipedia:Reasonability Rule|unpopular]] way, with the aim of getting it changed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Such tactics are highly disruptive to the project. If you feel that a policy is problematic, the policy's talk page is the proper place to raise your concerns. If you simply disagree with someone's actions in an article, discuss it on the article talk page or related pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that someone can legitimately ''make a point'', without '''disrupting''' Wikipedia to '''illustrate''' it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==={{anchor|IDHT}}{{anchor|Refusal to 'get the point'}}Failure or refusal to &amp;quot;get the point&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Redirect|WP:ICANTHEARYOU|inability of mobile editors to receive messages|Wikipedia:Mobile communication bugs}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Redirect|WP:Listen|the template to embed audio|Template:Listen}} &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Drawing of IDHT person (vector).svg|thumb|left|upright=0.7|&amp;quot;There's nothing wrong with my editing!&amp;quot;|alt=Drawing of a person sticking their fingers in their ears.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Shortcut|WP:LISTEN|WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT|WP:IDHT|WP:ICANTHEARYOU|WP:NOTGETTINGIT|WP:DONTGETIT|WP:HUH?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes, editors perpetuate disputes by sticking to an allegation or viewpoint long after the [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]] of the community has decided that moving on to other topics would be more productive. Such behavior is disruptive to Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Believing that you have a valid point does not confer upon you the right to act as though your point must be accepted by [[wp:The community|the community]] when you have been told that it is not accepted. The community's rejection of your idea is &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;not&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; proof that they have failed to hear you. Stop writing, listen, and consider what the other editors are telling you. Make a strong effort to see their side of the debate, and work on finding points of agreement. Do not confuse &amp;quot;hearing&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;[[WP:AGREE|agreeing with]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes, even when editors act in [[WP:Assume good faith|good faith]], their contributions may continue to be disruptive and time-wasting, for example, by continuing to say they don't understand what the problem is. Although editors should be encouraged to [[WP:BOLD|be bold]] and just do things if they think they're right, sometimes a [[WP:CIR|lack of competence]] can get in the way. If the community spends more time cleaning up editors' mistakes and educating them about policies and guidelines than it considers necessary, [[Wikipedia:Sanctions|sanctions]] may have to be imposed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Distinguished from productive editing==&lt;br /&gt;
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Editors often post minority views to articles. This fits within Wikipedia's mission so long as the contributions are [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]], do not give [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight|undue weight]], and where appropriate, comply with [[WP:FRINGE]]. The burden of evidence rests with the editor who initially provides the information or wishes the information to remain.&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represents all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint. Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means that articles should not give minority views as much of or as detailed a description as more widely held views.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Verifiable and noteworthy viewpoints include [[protoscience]] when published in reputable peer-reviewed journals. Editors may reasonably present active public disputes or controversies documented by reliable sources; citing a viewpoint stated in a mainstream scholarly journal, textbook, or monograph is not ''per se'' disruptive editing. This exemption does not apply to settled disputes, e.g. that [[geocentric model|the Sun revolves around the Earth]]. (''The dispute itself'' is notable.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes well-meaning editors may be misled by fringe publications or make honest mistakes when representing a citation. Such people may reasonably defend their positions for a short time, then concede the issue when they encounter better evidence or impartial feedback.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Attempts to evade detection==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{shortcut|WP:RUNAWAY}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Bad-faith disruptive editors attempt to evade [[WP:Enforcement|disciplinary action]] in several ways:&lt;br /&gt;
* Their edits occur over a long period of time, in which case no single edit is disruptive but the overall pattern clearly is.&lt;br /&gt;
* Their edits are largely confined to talk pages; such disruption may not directly harm an article, but it often prevents other editors from reaching consensus on how to improve it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Their comments may avoid breaches of [[WP:Civility|civility]] by refraining from [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] but still interfering with civil and collaborative editing and discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
* Their edits are limited to a small number of pages that very few people watch.&lt;br /&gt;
* Conversely, their edits may be distributed over a wide range of articles to make it less likely that any given user watches a sufficient number of affected articles to notice the disruptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nonetheless, such disruptive editing violates Wikipedia policy and norms.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dealing with disruptive editors==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Shortcut|WP:DDE}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The following is a model for remedies, though these steps do not necessarily have to be done in this sequence. In some extreme circumstances, a rapid report to [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] may be the best first step; in others, a fast track to a [[WP:BAN|community ban]] may be in order. But in general, most situations can benefit from a gradual escalation, with hope that each step may finally resolve the problem:&lt;br /&gt;
* First unencyclopedic entry by what appears to be a disruptive editor:&lt;br /&gt;
** [[WP:AGF|Assume good faith]]. Do not attack the author who you suspect is disruptive. However, '''revert''' uncited or unencyclopedic material. Use an edit summary which describes the problem in non-inflammatory terms. Stay very [[WP:CIVIL|civil]]. Post to talk page asking for discussion and/or sources. Consult [[WP:BITE|Do not bite the newcomers]], and be aware you may be dealing with someone who is new and confused, rather than a problem editor.&lt;br /&gt;
* If editor restores, or unreverts:&lt;br /&gt;
** If sourced information appears this time around, do nothing; if not, revert again if they haven't responded at the talkpage. Ensure a clear explanation for the difference in opinion is posted by you at the article talkpage. Refer to this thread in your edit summary. If possible, '''suggest compromises at the talkpage'''.&lt;br /&gt;
* If reverting continues, and they are &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;inserting unsourced information&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
** Revert, and '''request administrator assistance''' via [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] (ANI). Provide [[WP:DIFF|diffs]] of the multiple reverts by the tendentious editor. Keep your post short (no more than 250–500 words), well-diffed (multiple [[WP:DIFF|diffs]] showing evidence), and focus on user conduct issues (the tendentious editor is not engaging in discussion / is inserting unsourced information / is ignoring talkpage [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]). Try to avoid going into detailed article content issues at ANI, as it may reduce the likelihood that an admin will understand the complaint. Note: To be most successful at ANI, [[WP:BOOMERANG|your own history must be clean]]. At all times, stay civil, and avoid engaging in multiple reverts yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
* If tendentious editor ''is'' using sources, but &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;if the sources are poor or misinterpreted&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
** Do not go to ANI yet.&lt;br /&gt;
** '''Review''' [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
** '''File a report''' at the [[WP:RSN|Reliable Sources noticeboard]], if appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
** Continue attempts to engage the editor in dialogue. '''Refer to policies''' and guidelines as appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*** If only two editors are involved, '''seek a [[WP:3O|Third Opinion]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*** If more editors are involved, try a '''[[WP:RFC|Request for comment]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
* If attempts at dispute resolution are rejected or unsuccessful, or the problems continue:&lt;br /&gt;
** '''Notify the editor you find disruptive on their user talkpage'''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Include diffs of the problematic behavior. Use a section name and/or edit summary to clearly indicate that you view their behavior as disruptive, but avoid being unnecessarily provocative. Remember, you're still trying to de-escalate. If other editors are involved, they should post their own comments too, to make clear the ''community'' disapproves.&lt;br /&gt;
* If tendentious editor continues reverting:&lt;br /&gt;
** Use templates {{tls|uw-disruptive1}}, {{tls|uw-disruptive2}}, {{tls|uw-disruptive3}}, and {{tls|uw-disruptive4}}.&lt;br /&gt;
** Assuming it's one editor against many at this point, '''continue reverting''' the tendentious editor. If they exceed three reverts in a 24-hour period, '''file a report at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]]''' (but be careful you don't do excessive reverts yourself!). However, ''one tendentious editor cannot maintain problematic content in the face of multiple other editors reverting their edits''.&lt;br /&gt;
* If tendentious editor is not violating the three-revert rule (3RR), or there aren't enough editors involved to enforce Wikipedia policies:&lt;br /&gt;
** '''File a report at ANI, even if you have already filed one or more.'''&lt;br /&gt;
* If editor continues to ignore consensus of any decision reached at ANI:&lt;br /&gt;
** Again, '''request assistance at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]''' for administrator intervention, and point to consensus from earlier talk pages or noticeboards. An admin should issue a warning or temporary block as appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
* If blocks fail to solve the problem, or you are still unable to obtain attention via ANI, ''and all other avenues have been tried'':&lt;br /&gt;
** '''File a case for the [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] to review'''. Base it strictly on user conduct, and not on article content.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blocking and sanctions===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Disruptive editing may result in warnings and then escalating blocks, typically starting with 24 hours.&lt;br /&gt;
* Accounts used primarily for disruption will most likely be [[WP:Indefinite block|blocked indefinitely]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==April Fools' Day==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Wikipedia:Rules for Fools}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All edits on [[April Fools' Day]] must continue to adhere to all applicable Wikipedia policies and guidelines, including (but not limited to) [[WP:EW|edit warring]], [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|no personal attacks]] and the [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons policy]]. With the exception of the Main Page, all edits that are intended to be humorous should be kept out of the [[WP:NS0|article]] and [[WP:HELPNS|help namespaces]], as well as their respective talk pages; and be tagged with {{tl|Humor}} (or equivalent template, such as the inline {{tl|April fools}} or {{tl|4-1}}) to avoid misleading users.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Wikipedia:Avoiding talk-page disruption]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Disruptive sanctions]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Griefing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Hate is disruptive]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Just drop it]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Tag team]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Talk]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:WikiBullying]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:You are not irreplaceable]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Wikipedia policies and guidelines |state=collapsed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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