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	\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken		\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken
	\|format = [[w:Sketch comedy\|Sketch comedy]]		\|format = [[Sketch comedy\|Sketch comedy]]
	\|runtime = 30 minutes		\|runtime = 30 minutes
	\|country = [[w:United Kingdom\|United Kingdom]]		\|country = [[United Kingdom\|United Kingdom]]
	\|language = [[w:English language\|English]]		\|language = [[English language\|English]]
	\|home_station = [[w:BBC Light Programme\|BBC Light Programme]]		\|home_station = [[BBC Light Programme\|BBC Light Programme]]
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	'''''Beyond Our Ken''''' is a [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio comedy programme first broadcast between 1958 and 1964. It starred [[Kenneth Horne]], with [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]] [[Bill Pertwee]], and, as announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]. The title is a play on the name Kenneth and the familiar expression "beyond our ken" (''[[Wiktionary:ken\|ken]]'' being a mainly [[w:Northern England English\|Northern English]] and [[w:Scots language\|Scots]] word meaning 'knowledge or perception').		'''''Beyond Our Ken''''' is a [[BBC\|BBC]] radio comedy programme first broadcast between 1958 and 1964. It starred [[Kenneth Horne]], with [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]] [[Bill Pertwee]], and, as announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]. The title is a play on the name Kenneth and the familiar expression "beyond our ken" (''[[Wiktionary:ken\|ken]]'' being a mainly [[Northern England English\|Northern English]] and [[Scots language\|Scots]] word meaning 'knowledge or perception').

	The show ran for seven series, and a total of 121 shows. The scripts were by [[Eric Merriman]], with [[Barry Took]] as co-writer in the first two series. Musical accompaniment was provided by the BBC Revue Orchestra, with musical interludes mostly by the [[Fraser Hayes Four]].		The show ran for seven series, and a total of 121 shows. The scripts were by [[Eric Merriman]], with [[Barry Took]] as co-writer in the first two series. Musical accompaniment was provided by the BBC Revue Orchestra, with musical interludes mostly by the [[Fraser Hayes Four]].
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	==Background==		==Background==

	[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[w:stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the BBC producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>		[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[BBC\|BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the BBC producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>

	For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[w:West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[w:revue\|revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[w:Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>		For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[revue\|revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>

	==Production history==		==Production history==

	The pilot was recorded on 2 October 1957. It was well received by the studio audience and the BBC agreed to go ahead with a series.<ref>Johnston, pp. 171–2</ref> The project was put on hold in February 1958 after Horne suffered a [[w:stroke\|stroke]] that left him partially paralysed. He made an almost complete recovery – left with only a slight limp – and was able to return to broadcasting.<ref>Johnston, pp. 164–178</ref> There followed seven series of the show, beginning in July 1958 and ending in February 1964. Moody left after the first series, concluding that he was less suited than his colleagues to radio performance. His replacement was [[Bill Pertwee]], whom Horne had encountered in Pertwee's early days as a performer, and whose versatility impressed him.<ref>Johnston, pp. 236−237</ref> After the second series, Merriman and Took fell out, and the former rejected Horne's plea that Took should be invited to contribute material to future shows. Merriman insisted on being recognised as the sole writer for the duration of the show.<ref>Johnston, pp. 246 and 251</ref>		The pilot was recorded on 2 October 1957. It was well received by the studio audience and the BBC agreed to go ahead with a series.<ref>Johnston, pp. 171–2</ref> The project was put on hold in February 1958 after Horne suffered a [[stroke\|stroke]] that left him partially paralysed. He made an almost complete recovery – left with only a slight limp – and was able to return to broadcasting.<ref>Johnston, pp. 164–178</ref> There followed seven series of the show, beginning in July 1958 and ending in February 1964. Moody left after the first series, concluding that he was less suited than his colleagues to radio performance. His replacement was [[Bill Pertwee]], whom Horne had encountered in Pertwee's early days as a performer, and whose versatility impressed him.<ref>Johnston, pp. 236−237</ref> After the second series, Merriman and Took fell out, and the former rejected Horne's plea that Took should be invited to contribute material to future shows. Merriman insisted on being recognised as the sole writer for the duration of the show.<ref>Johnston, pp. 246 and 251</ref>

	===Series===		===Series===
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	\| [[Eric Merriman]] and [[Barry Took]]		\| [[Eric Merriman]] and [[Barry Took]]
	\| [[Kenneth Horne]], [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]], [[Ron Moody]], [[Stanley Unwin (comedian)\|Stanley Unwin]] (episodes 1 and 8). Announcer: [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]		\| [[Kenneth Horne]], [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]], [[Ron Moody]], [[Stanley Unwin (comedian)\|Stanley Unwin]] (episodes 1 and 8). Announcer: [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]
	\| Pat Lancaster, Malcolm Mitchell Trio (progs 1–16) [[Fraser Hayes Four]] (from episode 17), BBC Revue Orchestra, cond. [[w:Harry Rabinowitz\|Harry Rabinowitz]] and Paul Fenoulhet		\| Pat Lancaster, Malcolm Mitchell Trio (progs 1–16) [[Fraser Hayes Four]] (from episode 17), BBC Revue Orchestra, cond. [[Harry Rabinowitz\|Harry Rabinowitz]] and Paul Fenoulhet
	\| [[Jacques Brown]]; [[Charles Maxwell (radio producer)\|Charles Maxwell]] (episodes 20 and 21 only)		\| [[Jacques Brown]]; [[Charles Maxwell (radio producer)\|Charles Maxwell]] (episodes 20 and 21 only)
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	\| Merriman		\| Merriman
	\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith		\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith
	\| Lancaster, [[w:Jan Waters \|Janet Waters]], Fraser Hayes Four, the Hornets, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden		\| Lancaster, [[Jan Waters \|Janet Waters]], Fraser Hayes Four, the Hornets, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden
	\| Brown		\| Brown
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	\| Merriman		\| Merriman
	\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith		\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith
	\| [[w:Jill Day\|Jill Day]], Fraser Hayes Four, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden		\| [[Jill Day\|Jill Day]], Fraser Hayes Four, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden
	\| Brown		\| Brown
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	==Format==		==Format==

	Like ''[[ITMA]]'' and ''[[Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh]]'' before it, ''Beyond Our Ken'' interspersed comic sections with musical interludes, but it differed from them and all its other predecessors in the way the show opened each week. Instead of an opening signature tune, the programme began with a short sketch of a few lines, usually based on a punning reference to a film title (for instance a man running a flea circus for more than six years was the key to ''[[w:The Seven Year Itch\|The Seven Year Itch]]''). After that the announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]], would welcome listeners and introduce the fictional guests appearing that week, such as "General Sir Gertrude Fanshawe, Marion Haste, The House of Lords Banjo Octet, Dizzy Barbirolli, and of course Mr Kenneth Horne, who prefers to remain anonymous".<ref>Johnston, pp. 226–227</ref>		Like ''[[ITMA]]'' and ''[[Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh]]'' before it, ''Beyond Our Ken'' interspersed comic sections with musical interludes, but it differed from them and all its other predecessors in the way the show opened each week. Instead of an opening signature tune, the programme began with a short sketch of a few lines, usually based on a punning reference to a film title (for instance a man running a flea circus for more than six years was the key to ''[[The Seven Year Itch\|The Seven Year Itch]]''). After that the announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]], would welcome listeners and introduce the fictional guests appearing that week, such as "General Sir Gertrude Fanshawe, Marion Haste, The House of Lords Banjo Octet, Dizzy Barbirolli, and of course Mr Kenneth Horne, who prefers to remain anonymous".<ref>Johnston, pp. 226–227</ref>

	==Characters==		==Characters==
	''Beyond Our Ken'' featured regular characters. As panellists in a parody of ''[[w:Any Questions?\|Any Questions?]]'' the cast gently burlesqued real broadcasting celebrities. Marsden's hoarse-voiced Fanny Haddock, Pertwee's camp Hanky Flowerd, Paddick's gormless Ricky Livid and Williams's suggestive rustic Arthur Fallowfield parodied, respectively, the cook [[Fanny Cradock]], the comedian [[Frankie Howerd]], the pop star [[w:Marty Wilde\|Marty Wilde]] and the [[w:West country\|West country]] farmer and pundit [[w:Ralph Wightman\|Ralph Wightman]].<ref>Gifford, p. 23</ref> Some of these characters had their own [[w:catch-phrase\|catch-phrase]]s: Ricky Livid's was "I like the backing", and Fallowfield's response to every question began "The answer lies in the soil".<ref name=t138>Took, p. 138</ref> Elsewhere in the programmes the regular characters included Ambrose and Felicity (described by Took as "a pair of doddering old idiots"),<ref name=t138/> played by Williams and Marsden.<ref name=t138/> Another – unnamed – ancient personage, played by Williams, had been doing whatever he was doing on each programme for "thirty-five years";<ref name=t138/> Stanley Birkinshaw (Paddick) was a man with ill-fitting false teeth speaking with distorted sibilants and spraying saliva in all directions.<ref name=t138/><ref>Johnston, p. 218</ref> Another regular was the supposed BBC commentator Cecil Snaith, played by Paddick and written not by Merriman or Took but by Horne; Snaith's commentaries were invariably struck by disaster and ended, "And with that, I return you to the studio".<ref name=t138/> Two regulars who always appeared together were the men-about-town Rodney (Williams) and Charles (Paddick), variously described as "jolly decent public school chaps",<ref>Hackforth, p. 102</ref> "frightfully correct",<ref name=t138/> "a pair of effete young men",<ref>Johnston, pp. 228–229</ref> and "two frightfully, frightfully Mayfair types, doing ridiculous things together like dressing up as red Indians when they took a canoeing holiday".<ref>Freedland, p. 93</ref>		''Beyond Our Ken'' featured regular characters. As panellists in a parody of ''[[Any Questions?\|Any Questions?]]'' the cast gently burlesqued real broadcasting celebrities. Marsden's hoarse-voiced Fanny Haddock, Pertwee's camp Hanky Flowerd, Paddick's gormless Ricky Livid and Williams's suggestive rustic Arthur Fallowfield parodied, respectively, the cook [[Fanny Cradock]], the comedian [[Frankie Howerd]], the pop star [[Marty Wilde\|Marty Wilde]] and the [[West country\|West country]] farmer and pundit [[Ralph Wightman\|Ralph Wightman]].<ref>Gifford, p. 23</ref> Some of these characters had their own [[catch-phrase\|catch-phrase]]s: Ricky Livid's was "I like the backing", and Fallowfield's response to every question began "The answer lies in the soil".<ref name=t138>Took, p. 138</ref> Elsewhere in the programmes the regular characters included Ambrose and Felicity (described by Took as "a pair of doddering old idiots"),<ref name=t138/> played by Williams and Marsden.<ref name=t138/> Another – unnamed – ancient personage, played by Williams, had been doing whatever he was doing on each programme for "thirty-five years";<ref name=t138/> Stanley Birkinshaw (Paddick) was a man with ill-fitting false teeth speaking with distorted sibilants and spraying saliva in all directions.<ref name=t138/><ref>Johnston, p. 218</ref> Another regular was the supposed BBC commentator Cecil Snaith, played by Paddick and written not by Merriman or Took but by Horne; Snaith's commentaries were invariably struck by disaster and ended, "And with that, I return you to the studio".<ref name=t138/> Two regulars who always appeared together were the men-about-town Rodney (Williams) and Charles (Paddick), variously described as "jolly decent public school chaps",<ref>Hackforth, p. 102</ref> "frightfully correct",<ref name=t138/> "a pair of effete young men",<ref>Johnston, pp. 228–229</ref> and "two frightfully, frightfully Mayfair types, doing ridiculous things together like dressing up as red Indians when they took a canoeing holiday".<ref>Freedland, p. 93</ref>

	==Recordings==		==Recordings==
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	===Sources===		===Sources===
	{{refbegin \|30em}}		{{refbegin \|30em}}
	*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=w:Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}		*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}
	*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}		*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}
	* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=w:Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}		* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=w:Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}		* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=w:Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}		* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}		* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}
	{{refend}}		{{refend}}

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	\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken		\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken
	\|format = [[w:Sketch comedy\|Sketch comedy]]		\|format = [[w:Sketch comedy\|Sketch comedy]]

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	===Sources===		===Sources===
	{{refbegin \|30em}}		{{refbegin \|30em}}
	*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}		*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=w:Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}
	*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}		*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}
	* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}		* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=w:Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}		* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=w:Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}		* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=w:Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}		* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}
	{{refend}}		{{refend}}

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	==Characters==		==Characters==
	''Beyond Our Ken'' featured regular characters. As panellists in a parody of ''[[Any Questions?]]'' the cast gently burlesqued real broadcasting celebrities. Marsden's hoarse-voiced Fanny Haddock, Pertwee's camp Hanky Flowerd, Paddick's gormless Ricky Livid and Williams's suggestive rustic Arthur Fallowfield parodied, respectively, the cook [[Fanny Cradock]], the comedian [[Frankie Howerd]], the pop star [[Marty Wilde]] and the [[West country]] farmer and pundit [[Ralph Wightman]].<ref>Gifford, p. 23</ref> Some of these characters had their own [[catch-phrase]]s: Ricky Livid's was "I like the backing", and Fallowfield's response to every question began "The answer lies in the soil".<ref name=t138>Took, p. 138</ref> Elsewhere in the programmes the regular characters included Ambrose and Felicity (described by Took as "a pair of doddering old idiots"),<ref name=t138/> played by Williams and Marsden.<ref name=t138/> Another – unnamed – ancient personage, played by Williams, had been doing whatever he was doing on each programme for "thirty-five years";<ref name=t138/> Stanley Birkinshaw (Paddick) was a man with ill-fitting false teeth speaking with distorted sibilants and spraying saliva in all directions.<ref name=t138/><ref>Johnston, p. 218</ref> Another regular was the supposed BBC commentator Cecil Snaith, played by Paddick and written not by Merriman or Took but by Horne; Snaith's commentaries were invariably struck by disaster and ended, "And with that, I return you to the studio".<ref name=t138/> Two regulars who always appeared together were the men-about-town Rodney (Williams) and Charles (Paddick), variously described as "jolly decent public school chaps",<ref>Hackforth, p. 102</ref> "frightfully correct",<ref name=t138/> "a pair of effete young men",<ref>Johnston, pp. 228–229</ref> and "two frightfully, frightfully Mayfair types, doing ridiculous things together like dressing up as red Indians when they took a canoeing holiday".<ref>Freedland, p. 93</ref>		''Beyond Our Ken'' featured regular characters. As panellists in a parody of ''[[w:Any Questions?\|Any Questions?]]'' the cast gently burlesqued real broadcasting celebrities. Marsden's hoarse-voiced Fanny Haddock, Pertwee's camp Hanky Flowerd, Paddick's gormless Ricky Livid and Williams's suggestive rustic Arthur Fallowfield parodied, respectively, the cook [[Fanny Cradock]], the comedian [[Frankie Howerd]], the pop star [[w:Marty Wilde\|Marty Wilde]] and the [[w:West country\|West country]] farmer and pundit [[w:Ralph Wightman\|Ralph Wightman]].<ref>Gifford, p. 23</ref> Some of these characters had their own [[w:catch-phrase\|catch-phrase]]s: Ricky Livid's was "I like the backing", and Fallowfield's response to every question began "The answer lies in the soil".<ref name=t138>Took, p. 138</ref> Elsewhere in the programmes the regular characters included Ambrose and Felicity (described by Took as "a pair of doddering old idiots"),<ref name=t138/> played by Williams and Marsden.<ref name=t138/> Another – unnamed – ancient personage, played by Williams, had been doing whatever he was doing on each programme for "thirty-five years";<ref name=t138/> Stanley Birkinshaw (Paddick) was a man with ill-fitting false teeth speaking with distorted sibilants and spraying saliva in all directions.<ref name=t138/><ref>Johnston, p. 218</ref> Another regular was the supposed BBC commentator Cecil Snaith, played by Paddick and written not by Merriman or Took but by Horne; Snaith's commentaries were invariably struck by disaster and ended, "And with that, I return you to the studio".<ref name=t138/> Two regulars who always appeared together were the men-about-town Rodney (Williams) and Charles (Paddick), variously described as "jolly decent public school chaps",<ref>Hackforth, p. 102</ref> "frightfully correct",<ref name=t138/> "a pair of effete young men",<ref>Johnston, pp. 228–229</ref> and "two frightfully, frightfully Mayfair types, doing ridiculous things together like dressing up as red Indians when they took a canoeing holiday".<ref>Freedland, p. 93</ref>

	==Recordings==		==Recordings==

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	Like ''[[ITMA]]'' and ''[[Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh]]'' before it, ''Beyond Our Ken'' interspersed comic sections with musical interludes, but it differed from them and all its other predecessors in the way the show opened each week. Instead of an opening signature tune, the programme began with a short sketch of a few lines, usually based on a punning reference to a film title (for instance a man running a flea circus for more than six years was the key to ''[[The Seven Year Itch]]''). After that the announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]], would welcome listeners and introduce the fictional guests appearing that week, such as "General Sir Gertrude Fanshawe, Marion Haste, The House of Lords Banjo Octet, Dizzy Barbirolli, and of course Mr Kenneth Horne, who prefers to remain anonymous".<ref>Johnston, pp. 226–227</ref>		Like ''[[ITMA]]'' and ''[[Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh]]'' before it, ''Beyond Our Ken'' interspersed comic sections with musical interludes, but it differed from them and all its other predecessors in the way the show opened each week. Instead of an opening signature tune, the programme began with a short sketch of a few lines, usually based on a punning reference to a film title (for instance a man running a flea circus for more than six years was the key to ''[[w:The Seven Year Itch\|The Seven Year Itch]]''). After that the announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]], would welcome listeners and introduce the fictional guests appearing that week, such as "General Sir Gertrude Fanshawe, Marion Haste, The House of Lords Banjo Octet, Dizzy Barbirolli, and of course Mr Kenneth Horne, who prefers to remain anonymous".<ref>Johnston, pp. 226–227</ref>

	==Characters==		==Characters==

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	\| [[Eric Merriman]] and [[Barry Took]]		\| [[Eric Merriman]] and [[Barry Took]]
	\| [[Kenneth Horne]], [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]], [[Ron Moody]], [[Stanley Unwin (comedian)\|Stanley Unwin]] (episodes 1 and 8). Announcer: [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]		\| [[Kenneth Horne]], [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]], [[Ron Moody]], [[Stanley Unwin (comedian)\|Stanley Unwin]] (episodes 1 and 8). Announcer: [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]
	\| Pat Lancaster, Malcolm Mitchell Trio (progs 1–16) [[Fraser Hayes Four]] (from episode 17), BBC Revue Orchestra, cond. [[Harry Rabinowitz]] and Paul Fenoulhet		\| Pat Lancaster, Malcolm Mitchell Trio (progs 1–16) [[Fraser Hayes Four]] (from episode 17), BBC Revue Orchestra, cond. [[w:Harry Rabinowitz\|Harry Rabinowitz]] and Paul Fenoulhet
	\| [[Jacques Brown]]; [[Charles Maxwell (radio producer)\|Charles Maxwell]] (episodes 20 and 21 only)		\| [[Jacques Brown]]; [[Charles Maxwell (radio producer)\|Charles Maxwell]] (episodes 20 and 21 only)
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	\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith		\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith
	\| Lancaster, [[Jan Waters \|Janet Waters]], Fraser Hayes Four, the Hornets, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden		\| Lancaster, [[w:Jan Waters \|Janet Waters]], Fraser Hayes Four, the Hornets, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden
	\| Brown		\| Brown
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	\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith		\| Horne, Williams, Paddick, Marsden, Pertwee, Smith
	\| [[Jill Day]], Fraser Hayes Four, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden		\| [[w:Jill Day\|Jill Day]], Fraser Hayes Four, BBC Revue Orchestra, Braden
	\| Brown		\| Brown
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	==Background==		==Background==

	[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the [[BBC]] producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>		[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[w:stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the BBC producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>

	For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[w:West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>		For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[w:West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[w:revue\|revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[w:Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>

	==Production history==		==Production history==

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	\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken		\|show_name = Beyond Our Ken
	\|format = [[Sketch comedy]]		\|format = [[w:Sketch comedy\|Sketch comedy]]
	\|runtime = 30 minutes		\|runtime = 30 minutes
	\|country = [[United Kingdom]]		\|country = [[w:United Kingdom\|United Kingdom]]
	\|language = [[English language\|English]]		\|language = [[w:English language\|English]]
	\|home_station = [[BBC Light Programme]]		\|home_station = [[w:BBC Light Programme\|BBC Light Programme]]
	\|syndicates =		\|syndicates =
	\|starring = {{Plainlist\|		\|starring = {{Plainlist\|
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	\|director =		\|director =
	\|producer = [[Jacques Brown]] (s 1–5)<br/>John Simmonds(s 6–7)<br/>Charles Maxwell (s 1)		\|producer = [[Jacques Brown]] (s 1–5)<br/>John Simmonds(s 6–7)<br/>Charles Maxwell (s 1)
	~~\|exec_in_charge =~~
	~~\|exec_producer =~~
	\|rec_location =		\|rec_location =
	\|first_aired = {{start date\|1958\|7\|1\|df=yes}}		\|first_aired = {{start date\|1958\|7\|1\|df=yes}}
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	}}		}}
	'''''Beyond Our Ken''''' is a [[BBC]] radio comedy programme first broadcast between 1958 and 1964. It starred [[Kenneth Horne]], with [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]] [[Bill Pertwee]], and, as announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]. The title is a play on the name Kenneth and the familiar expression "beyond our ken" (''[[Wiktionary:ken\|ken]]'' being a mainly [[Northern England English\|Northern English]] and [[Scots language\|Scots]] word meaning 'knowledge or perception').		'''''Beyond Our Ken''''' is a [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio comedy programme first broadcast between 1958 and 1964. It starred [[Kenneth Horne]], with [[Kenneth Williams]], [[Hugh Paddick]], [[Betty Marsden]] [[Bill Pertwee]], and, as announcer, [[Douglas Smith (broadcaster)\|Douglas Smith]]. The title is a play on the name Kenneth and the familiar expression "beyond our ken" (''[[Wiktionary:ken\|ken]]'' being a mainly [[w:Northern England English\|Northern English]] and [[w:Scots language\|Scots]] word meaning 'knowledge or perception').

	The show ran for seven series, and a total of 121 shows. The scripts were by [[Eric Merriman]], with [[Barry Took]] as co-writer in the first two series. Musical accompaniment was provided by the BBC Revue Orchestra, with musical interludes mostly by the [[Fraser Hayes Four]].		The show ran for seven series, and a total of 121 shows. The scripts were by [[Eric Merriman]], with [[Barry Took]] as co-writer in the first two series. Musical accompaniment was provided by the BBC Revue Orchestra, with musical interludes mostly by the [[Fraser Hayes Four]].
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	==Background==		==Background==

	[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the [[BBC]] producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>		[[Eric Merriman]] had written some material for [[Barry Took]], when the latter was an aspiring [[stand-up comedy\|stand-up comic]].<ref name=t137>Took, p. 137</ref> They subsequently collaborated in writing material for [[Kenneth Horne]] for [[w:BBC\|BBC]] radio shows, and in June 1957 the [[BBC]] producer [[Jacques Brown]] asked Merriman to devise a thirty-minute show with Horne as the star.<ref name=t137/> The proposal was for a series depicting a fictional week in Horne's life. The original working title was ''Don't Look Now'', but a senior official in the BBC's Variety department thought the title weak, and Took was asked to suggest some alternatives. His own preferred title was ''Round the Horne'', and Merriman favoured ''Hornerama'', but from Took's list the BBC chose ''Beyond Our Ken'', and it was under that title that Merriman and Took completed the script for the pilot show.<ref name=j171/>

	For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>		For the supporting cast it was agreed that the show required a strong team of versatile comedy actors who could play a wide range of parts. They were drawn from the [[w:West End theatre\|West End]] and BBC radio and television. From [[revue]]{{refn\|By the time of the first series, Moody, Paddick and Lancaster were appearing in the revue ''For Adults Only'', which ran at the [[Novello Theatre\|Strand Theatre]] for 292 performances from 25 June 1958.<ref>Gaye, p. 1531</ref> Took, who had not yet abandoned his stage career, was a member of the cast.<ref name=t138/>\|group=n}} the show featured the actors [[Ron Moody]] and [[Hugh Paddick]] and the singer Pat Lancaster; from BBC television, [[Betty Marsden]]; and from radio [[Kenneth Williams]].<ref name=j171>Johnston, p. 171</ref>

	==Production history==		==Production history==

	The pilot was recorded on 2 October 1957. It was well received by the studio audience and the BBC agreed to go ahead with a series.<ref>Johnston, pp. 171–2</ref> The project was put on hold in February 1958 after Horne suffered a [[stroke]] that left him partially paralysed. He made an almost complete recovery – left with only a slight limp – and was able to return to broadcasting.<ref>Johnston, pp. 164–178</ref> There followed seven series of the show, beginning in July 1958 and ending in February 1964. Moody left after the first series, concluding that he was less suited than his colleagues to radio performance. His replacement was [[Bill Pertwee]], whom Horne had encountered in Pertwee's early days as a performer, and whose versatility impressed him.<ref>Johnston, pp. 236−237</ref> After the second series, Merriman and Took fell out, and the former rejected Horne's plea that Took should be invited to contribute material to future shows. Merriman insisted on being recognised as the sole writer for the duration of the show.<ref>Johnston, pp. 246 and 251</ref>		The pilot was recorded on 2 October 1957. It was well received by the studio audience and the BBC agreed to go ahead with a series.<ref>Johnston, pp. 171–2</ref> The project was put on hold in February 1958 after Horne suffered a [[w:stroke\|stroke]] that left him partially paralysed. He made an almost complete recovery – left with only a slight limp – and was able to return to broadcasting.<ref>Johnston, pp. 164–178</ref> There followed seven series of the show, beginning in July 1958 and ending in February 1964. Moody left after the first series, concluding that he was less suited than his colleagues to radio performance. His replacement was [[Bill Pertwee]], whom Horne had encountered in Pertwee's early days as a performer, and whose versatility impressed him.<ref>Johnston, pp. 236−237</ref> After the second series, Merriman and Took fell out, and the former rejected Horne's plea that Took should be invited to contribute material to future shows. Merriman insisted on being recognised as the sole writer for the duration of the show.<ref>Johnston, pp. 246 and 251</ref>

	===Series===		===Series===

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	===Sources===		===Sources===
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	*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}		*{{cite book \| last = Freedland \| first = Michael \|authorlink=w:Michael Freedland\| title= Kenneth Williams: A Biography \| date = 1990\| location = London\| publisher =Weidenfeld and Nicolson \| isbn = 978-0-297-79701-2}}
	*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}		*{{cite book \| editor-last = Gaye \| editor-first = Freda \| year = 1967 \| title = Who's Who in the Theatre \| edition = fourteenth \| location = London \| publisher = Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons \| oclc = 5997224 }}
	* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}		* {{cite book\|last1=Gifford\|first1=Denis\|authorlink1=w:Denis Gifford\|title=The Golden Age of Radio: An Illustrated Companion\|year=1985\|publisher=Batsford\|location=London\|isbn=978-0-7134-4234-2}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}		* {{cite book \| last=Hackforth \| first=Norman \|author-link=w:Norman Hackforth\| title=Solo for Horne: A Biography of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Angus & Roberts \| location=London \| year=1976 \| isbn=978-0-207-95650-8}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}		* {{cite book \| last=Johnston \| first=Barry \|authorlink=w:Barry Johnston (writer)\| title=Round Mr Horne: The Life of Kenneth Horne \| publisher=Aurum Press \| year=2006 \| location=London \| isbn=978-1-84513-123-4}}
	* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}		* {{cite book \| last=Took \| first=Barry \|author-link=Barry Took\| title=Laughter in the Air \| year=1981 \| location=London \| publisher=Robson Books and the BBC \| isbn= 978-0-563-17197-3}}
	{{refend}}		{{refend}}